Attention die hard Wolf players...

[MASH]

What if I told you Battlefield 2 had classes, revives, dispensable ammo packs, sprinting, dual objective maps, and the ability for players to gain ranks. Would it sway any of you to the dark side?

Just curious.

[LilPuppy]

:lol: :lol: :lol: .......you just won't quit trying.

you get kick backs for recruitment?

[Chalybos]

Take my hand, and we will rule the galaxy as father and son!

[What-the..]

Take my hand, and we will rule the galaxy as father and son!

Shouldn't that be Mother and Daughter?

:D

:?:

Quietly waiting BAN reply!!! :cry:

[NVmySTYLE]

What if I told you Battlefield 2 had classes, revives, dispensable ammo packs, sprinting, dual objective maps, and the ability for players to gain ranks. Would it sway any of you to the dark side?

Just curious.

instead of waiting for those things, play call of duty united offensive now. the awe mod has all that and realisitc bleeding effects, great artillery strikes....etc etc.

face it EA puts out unfinsihed code and expects us to pay full price i say f off EA and i'll play something finshed out of the box thank you very much. as far as bf2 goes, ea lost me with the piece of crap they put out the first time and the second time (anyone play bf vietnam), i'll patiently wait for rtcw 2.

things to do with bf cds........great coasters, psycedelic frisbees, bling bling wheels for your son's pine wood derby car.

[MASH]

I just want to guage the interest... that's all... no alterior motives... whatsoever.... not in the slightest.... seriously.... I mean it.... what?


face it EA puts out unfinsihed code and expects us to pay full price i say f off EA and i'll play something finshed out of the box thank you very much. as far as bf2 goes, ea lost me with the piece of crap they put out the first time and the second time (anyone play bf vietnam), i'll patiently wait for rtcw 2.

things to do with bf cds........great coasters, psycedelic frisbees, bling bling wheels for your son's pine wood derby car.
So, we'll see you on the Dome tonight? Good.

[FinalDream]

I play BF:V not that much though. I didn't even buy COD so I guess that means BF:V is better :wink: .

[SauerKraut]

BF:V is most certainly NOT better....in my opinion anyway. I was a convert to BF immediately following RTCW, like anyone with the capacity for rational thought, and I've mentally and physically tried to sway myself away from it and give other games a fighting chance (all hail the pun), but sadly, all other games are crap. CoD is crap merely a few points lower than BF:Vietnam. Don't even get me started on Enemy Crapitory.

BF:Vietnam angers me greatly because they turned on their propoganda war machine and spewed out a bunch of hype to get us all aroused, and then it was released and it pre-maturely ejaculated all over my leg. I kicked it for its insolence.


Screw with MY helicopter flight physics? No sir.

[NVmySTYLE]

BF:Vietnam angers me greatly because they turned on their propoganda war machine and spewed out a bunch of hype to get us all aroused, and then it was released and it pre-maturely ejaculated all over my leg. I kicked it for its insolence.


sounds like an interesting pattern is emerging. bf2 is being hyped all over and as far as i'm concerned if EA has anything to do with it, it will suck too.

[Chalybos]

CoD over BF?!?! I gave away my copy of CoD. A while ago. Ah, well, I guess we'll have to wait for RTCW2 to kick NV's butt. :wink:

[BoogerBomb]

The thing about the batttlefield series of games is that there just doesnt seem to be as much clas interaction as with RTCW. Medics are totally useless in BF so they might as well just take them out. I havent tried COD UO yet but no other game has come close to what Nerve was able to accomplish with RTCW. If BF2 can come close then I would look into it as RTCW is just about dead. Its on one leg and bleeding profusely right now.

[Chalybos]

Booger, the Support Class in DC takes the place of the Medic, and also the Engineer. And is VERY heavily used. But there's one of the differences between 1942 and DC. And if you're in armor and there's a Support personnel nearby, they're your best buddy.

[TedHershey]

I'm splitting my time now between RTCW and BF, and frankly, I wish we where all still playing RTCW but I am trying hard to like BF. Seems kinda pointless to me most of the time, I like objectives like get the docs and bring them here, or get over there and blow that up. I never liked Check Point maps in RTCW and I definitely don't dig their equivalent in BF.

Still, BF is the only game I can play and kill and be killed by VSF folks, so I'll stick with it.

[Chalybos]

We tried the Capture the Flag mode, but it got stale quickly. Once in a while, it's fun, but on a regular basis, well......... like I said.

[SauerKraut]

BF:Vietnam angers me greatly because they turned on their propoganda war machine and spewed out a bunch of hype to get us all aroused, and then it was released and it pre-maturely ejaculated all over my leg. I kicked it for its insolence.


sounds like an interesting pattern is emerging. bf2 is being hyped all over and as far as i'm concerned if EA has anything to do with it, it will suck too.


This is precisely what is worrying me this time around as well. I told myself that I'd not give in and work my excitement up to a nice thick lather because I'd only hurt myself by going in with high expectations. I said to myself, "Self, BF2 is gonna suck. You wait and see. They'll make the airplanes and helicopters easy to fly for the newbs, thus changing the physics once again and handicapping me in the enjoyment factor. Or they'll probably have something gHey like a Hind being shot down with a clip of the SAW but an Apache can take 3 stingers to the face." But crap, man, Self wasn't home and my message I left for him got erased when the power went out. I am pretty damn excited once again and am no longer in control of my Enthusiasm Faculty.

Bloody EA and their making of a perfect game called Battlefield 1942, of which I hold as the standard for comparison to every other friggen game out there past or present, and what angers me is that I cannot help it. I am generally one of those "scientific" types of people, you know? The kind of guy who likes to hold off on making hypothoses without any unbias observation. But alas, I'm typing way too much for such a simple "You're right, NV" post.

[NVmySTYLE]

CoD over BF?!?! I gave away my copy of CoD. A while ago. Ah, well, I guess we'll have to wait for RTCW2 to kick NV's butt. :wink:

[SauerKraut]

We tried the Capture the Flag mode, but it got stale quickly. Once in a while, it's fun, but on a regular basis, well......... like I said.



Different Popes for different blokes.

I personally like CTF better than regular [insert any game here]. There was a RTCW mod out there that had allowed BOTH CTF & Objective modes to be played at the same time. I forgot the name, but I remember playing it often. You know, you could blow the bridge while running back with the flag, eternally spiting Roc_ketBoy as he watches from the death screen praying for the 5 more seconds until respawn to hurry up!


and even though this is RTCW section, CTF DesertCombat is the most enjoyable game type for me. I get to rape AND complete an objective at the same time! Hurray! Deathmatch with um...i'll shut up now everyone gets the point...

[BoogerBomb]

BF:Vietnam angers me greatly because they turned on their propoganda war machine and spewed out a bunch of hype to get us all aroused, and then it was released and it pre-maturely ejaculated all over my leg. I kicked it for its insolence.


sounds like an interesting pattern is emerging. bf2 is being hyped all over and as far as i'm concerned if EA has anything to do with it, it will suck too.


This is precisely what is worrying me this time around as well. I told myself that I'd not give in and work my excitement up to a nice thick lather because I'd only hurt myself by going in with high expectations. I said to myself, "Self, BF2 is gonna suck. You wait and see. They'll make the airplanes and helicopters easy to fly for the newbs, thus changing the physics once again and handicapping me in the enjoyment factor. Or they'll probably have something gHey like a Hind being shot down with a clip of the SAW but an Apache can take 3 stingers to the face." But crap, man, Self wasn't home and my message I left for him got erased when the power went out. I am pretty damn excited once again and am no longer in control of my Enthusiasm Faculty.

Bloody EA and their making of a perfect game called Battlefield 1942, of which I hold as the standard for comparison to every other friggen game out there past or present, and what angers me is that I cannot help it. I am generally one of those "scientific" types of people, you know? The kind of guy who likes to hold off on making hypothoses without any unbias observation. But alas, I'm typing way too much for such a simple "You're right, NV" post.

Why would you want a game that imitates life perfectly? I play a game to get away from real life. Thats what I like about RTCW are the little physics quirks that make it just fun to play without imitating life.

[TedHershey]

I personally like CTF better than regular [insert any game here]. There was a RTCW mod out there that had allowed BOTH CTF & Objective modes to be played at the same time. I forgot the name, but I remember playing it often. You know, you could blow the bridge while running back with the flag, eternally spiting Roc_ketBoy as he watches from the death screen praying for the 5 more seconds until respawn to hurry up!

Was is a mod that allowed actual CTF or just maps that had both a doc and dyno objective like schwalbe(sp)?

I didn't even see that BF had a CTF mode! (I just got the game and hopped on the dome.) Maybe I'll hop on some of the unpatched CTF flags until Aspyr gets the patch out. Just remember it taking for ever for the Wolf 1.4 patch to come out.

It looks like DC will work on the Mac, though not DC final.

[SauerKraut]

Why would you want a game that imitates life perfectly? I play a game to get away from real life. Thats what I like about RTCW are the little physics quirks that make it just fun to play without imitating life.

:lol:

Who said any game that I play perfectly imitates life? There is no game nor electronic simulation of any kind, especially a first person shooter PC game, that is a perfect imitation. It is ludicrous to think so.

But, why would you not like a game that is as close as mathematically possible? I play a game while I live my real life instead of attempting to get away from it because escapism is a defeatist endeavor and compounds the problems already symptomatic. Enough of the 12 Stepping. Let's talk pwning.

I like RTCW also because the physics were quite good, even though you didn't think they were. The ballistic physics were very well represented in RTCW and probably couldn't have been any better at the time it was first being developed. I like BF1942 even more so, not because it perfectly imitates life, but because it tries to emulate as close as possible the physical characteristics of the known universe (except the part about falling 1 foot, breaking your ankle and dying on the spot...that they seem to leave in there to bug me, and often).

Do you like to play easy games where you start out and everyone is an expert and nobody is a noob? I feel sorry for the person who plays games like that. What an awfully boring thing. I prefer a lot of difficulty, so as you progress through the game, the better you get and the more fun you have.

A perfect example is the mechanics of flight between Battlefield 1942: Desert Combat and Battlefield:Vietnam. DC has an exceptional set of characteristics in the flight engine whereas Vietnam does not. I am willing to wager on the liklihood of the person who wrote the ballistics algorhythms was a person with an aerodynamic engineering degree with a stronger physics background than the math.

Though the jet aeroplanes handle wholely unlike the unstable aircraft in the real world, however they did a good job of getting as close as you can in a game where the pilot is not affected by the physical world around him, the genius of the math in the game's engine shines during helicopter flight. Currently, the latest mod of DC has the Mi-24D Hind down almost perfectly. I've flown in the 24D many dozens of times. Around 20 or so of my parachute training drops were from it and so were my 2 combat drops, not counting irregular transport. I was not the pilot of course, but when you're in a small aircraft, you can feel how it moves through the atmosphere and how it reacts to the pilots' control movements. And in all seriousness, I remember the Hind handling as similar as possible to real life in the current DC_Final edition. I'm fairly gifted with the ability to "reason space." If that makes any sense to you. Three-dimensional thinking it's called, or spatial intelligence or whatever. This is perhaps my only talent that I'm aware of and helps me get a "feel" for things when I'm observing mechanics or foundational formulaic bases and then anticipating what is going to happen given a certain stimulus.

Why is closer-to-life emulation good? Because it is hard. It takes lots of practice to become good at being an AirWhore. You don't just show up for flight school and they put you in the plane one time, give you the stick, and graduate you within the hour at the top of the class with the rest of the cadets, do they? No. It takes hard work and lots of practice. The way games should be and also the reason in which they [organized sport] were invented.

I hypothesize that the majority of humans prefer observing higher-skilled sporting events (say collegiate or professional) as opposed to rank amatueric (=<high school) events in the same sport. A parallel hypothesis holds the summary to the previous hypothesis with the notion that the more challenging observational experience is the much more rewarding observational experience. :nod:





;)

[Chalybos]

See what happens when Balac stays up late?

[SauerKraut]

I did what now?



OMG look at that huge post. Sleep Deprivation is just another moniker for Drugless Induced Delirium.

[Chalybos]

That's what I mean. Huge post. Heheh, I said "huge".

[ignus]

EA is a terrible company, they havent put out a good game since I can remember. and most companies they acquire usually end up getting their series crapped up too.

[Chalybos]

Sooooooo, you don't like BF? :?

[MASH]

EA is a terrible company, they havent put out a good game since I can remember. and most companies they acquire usually end up getting their series crapped up too.
Your cluelessness is without parallel...

[Chalybos]

EA is a terrible company, they havent put out a good game since I can remember. and most companies they acquire usually end up getting their series crapped up too.
Your cluelessness is without parallel...
Okay, enough of the CoD, Wolf and BF comparisons. I'm finding myself siding with MASH waaaaaaaaay to often for either one of us to be comfortable. It's just ........ spooky.

[SauerKraut]

EA is a terrible company, they havent put out a good game since I can remember. and most companies they acquire usually end up getting their series crapped up too.



What can you actually remember, that's what I want to know.

Ever heard of a thing called EA Sports? You know, "It's in the game!"
They make the BEST sports products on the market.
Exhibit A: FIFA Soccer
Exhibit B: NCAA Football
Exhibit C: NHL Hockey
Exhibit D: Madden Football

And to shove some more "ET is the worst game in the world how do you live with yourself and quit being a baby and trying to be 'different' and not joining the rest of the crowd over at BF" stuff down your throat...

BF1942 and subsequent mods are the best damn first person shooters ever made. Ever! Of all time!

Medal of Honor wasn't so bad either, though it was a little rough around the edges, but a damn good predecessor for the code writers to cut their teeth on while they built the best damn first person shooter of all time! Ever!

:D

[Dr.Strangelove]

LOL at this extremely tired conversation.

Let's rip into each other's favorite games..............AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I happen to enjoy both. so there.



I like cheese

[What-the..]

EA is a terrible company, they havent put out a good game since I can remember. and most companies they acquire usually end up getting their series crapped up too.
Sounds like another company we know.......Micro$haft!!!
:?:

[SauerKraut]

LOL at this extremely tired conversation.

Let's rip into each other's favorite games..............AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I happen to enjoy both. so there.



I like cheese


I know, but I so love it. However, I was asked a question so I answered it...thus I am not at fault for continued lameness of this thread.


*as there is no such thing as sin, I am feeling no need to wash myself of it.

[MASH]

LOL at this extremely tired conversation.

Let's rip into each other's favorite games..............AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, actually, my intentions were pure when I started this thread. I just wanted to know if those were the components that were keeping some people away from BF, and trying to determine if there was a chance of reconciliation. Leave it to the hijackers to muck it all up...

[Chalybos]

LOL at this extremely tired conversation.

Let's rip into each other's favorite games..............AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, actually, my intentions were pure when I started this thread. I just wanted to know if those were the components that were keeping some people away from BF, and trying to determine if there was a chance of reconciliation. Leave it to the hijackers to muck it all up...
Blame NV. It's just so easy to do. "NV trashed BF", "NV got us banned", "NV kicked my as$ again", "NV hacked my MILFHunter account". It's all good.

[SauerKraut]

Who cares what games people play? Do people honestly believe I would personally get offended hearing smack talk about a game I enjoy? If people get upset because someone calls the games they like that are different "lHame" or possibly "gHey" then that person needs to do us all a favour and kill themselves to put them out of my misery.

I'll lend a hand in the ritual if need be. Grow up people.

ET sucks. Get over it.

[Chalybos]

snip
ET sucks. Get over it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: I'll never get tired of hearing you say that (or reading you write that).

[SauerKraut]

:lol:

Nothing cheers me up more than annoying those that can BE annoyed. Know what I mean?

[Chalybos]

Yep. :D It's stess relieving.

[Bizman]

:)
Yeah,
But you still like CAKE!
Agreed..if you like a game play it..who cares if so and so does not like it..they can lick the HBS if ya know what I mean. (Hairy Ball Sac).
Biz
If you play it..enjoy it!

[NVmySTYLE]

LOL at this extremely tired conversation.

Let's rip into each other's favorite games..............AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, actually, my intentions were pure when I started this thread. I just wanted to know if those were the components that were keeping some people away from BF, and trying to determine if there was a chance of reconciliation. Leave it to the hijackers to muck it all up...

if your intentions were pure, start the thread in the bf section or other games section not the rtcw section. bf2 will suck like bf vietnam sucks, will i buy it? probably not but i will download an evaluation version to "test". to be honest i hope it doesn't suck but EA sucks and they will see to it that the game sucks.

this is a case of "ohhh i'm excited and about to wet my pants lets see if i can get others excited so i'm not the only one with a wet stain on my crotch".

[MASH]

if your intentions were pure, start the thread in the bf section or other games section not the rtcw section. bf2 will suck like bf vietnam sucks, will i buy it? probably not but i will download an evaluation version to "test". to be honest i hope it doesn't suck but EA sucks and they will see to it that the game sucks.

this is a case of "ohhh i'm excited and about to wet my pants lets see if i can get others excited so i'm not the only one with a wet stain on my crotch".
Ignus, stop using Chris' login.... that's just wrong.

[SauerKraut]

Let's naht bicker and argue about 'oo killed 'oo. It's supposed to be an 'appy occasion!

[RuperT]

Well, I definitely agree that BF:V was not all I had hoped it would be, and I feel that there's a definite danger of BF2 being 'attractive, but more of the same'. EA worships evolution, not revolution.
I personally am interested in hearing people's deeper analyses on what they expect from games and what makes them fun. It's no secret that I'm a DC addict, and I actually spend some time trying to figure out why (so I could try to stop wasting money on unplayed games). For me, it has to do with the expansiveness of the maps, and the variety of physics that can be enjoyed (the particular application of plane-bound missile and bomb vectors fascinates endlessly). I played CoD MP for an evening or two, but I (probably prematurely and unfairly) dismissed it as too derivative of CS, Dod, or various other infantry-only shooters (this was obviously before UO or some of the interesting mods). As I pointed out in length in an old thread, I'd already seen every combination of GI killing GI that CoD had to offer. Even HL2, with it's extreme beauty and kewl physics, leaves me cold on the MP front because the maps (ie CS) are EXTREMELY cramped after, say, El Alamein. The great features of CoD (like iron sights and general polish) just couldn't make up for the expansive environment BF introduced me to; I still remember my awe at first walking around on, and then actually piloting, the battleship in the BF demo. Again, I don't see myself as some sort of 'advanced gamer' for eschewing CoD (having put many years into CS and DoD), but it just didn't coincide with what tickled my fickle little brain at the time... Oh, and NV and Doc S insisted on effortlessly ventilating me, as I recall.
As far as DC heli physics go, I feel like the center of gravity and the rudder behaviour felt better in BF:V, but BF:V choppers just don't have enough inertia; it's more like a soldier with a jetpack and rockets, or that insane video of the kid with the radio controlled chopper. You might guess I'm in the 'harder flying is better' camp, but I'm also in the minority of gamers in that regard, and EA will ignore my wishes.
Finally, I only played the RtCW demo; I know I'll never be truly accepted by VSF due to this shameful fact.... :wink:

[CMontyBurns]

...
Finally, I only played the RtCW demo; I know I'll never be truly accepted by VSF due to this shameful fact.... :wink:
Rupert - Take your shame stick and stand in the corner until RtCW2 comes out you naughty little boy...

[SauerKraut]

...
Finally, I only played the RtCW demo; I know I'll never be truly accepted by VSF due to this shameful fact.... :wink:


Damn foreigners.

[TedHershey]

For me what makes a good game?

1. Sense of purpose. Objective based. Everything else just feels like a twitch game.

2. Class system that reinforces teamwork.

3. A level editor for building custom maps. building maps is just as much fun for me as playing the game.

4. Sprint and a useful jump, slightly pushed character physics.

5. Open Maps, with lotsa destructibility.

[FinalDream]

For me what makes a good game?

1. Sense of purpose. Objective based. Everything else just feels like a twitch game.

2. Class system that reinforces teamwork.

3. A level editor for building custom maps. building maps is just as much fun for me as playing the game.

4. Sprint and a useful jump, slightly pushed character physics.

5. Open Maps, with lotsa destructibility.

Sounds like BF2... Except for point 2 we won't know if the class system is going to be any better till we play it. The addition of points for medics and engineers probably won't do it alone, but the revive feature could help a bit.

[MASH]

but the revive feature could help a bit.
As much as it pains me to say this, I actually hope they don't include revives in the game. I would hate to go back to having to gib all the bodies. Just my opinion, though.

[FinalDream]

As much as it pains me to say this, I actually hope they don't include revives in the game. I would hate to go back to having to gib all the bodies. Just my opinion, though.

The more open style of maps in BF might allow you to setup a medic for certain death. Wound a soldier and then let the snipers use em' as bait.

[TedHershey]

Is there a Map Editor for BF?

MASH, as good as you where with the needle, that surprises me. Or maybe I'm remembering Gasser...

[FinalDream]

Is there a Map Editor for BF?


http://www.planetbattlefield.com/battlecraft42/
http://www.planetbattlefield.com/mdt/

[LilPuppy]

Okay first of all why is this happening here ?? If you don't play the game get the hell out of the section okay...I don't play it and I'm asking all of you's who don't either to stop....okay...please....and let it die....

Oh and I still like BF:V..... :D

Wolf still pwns and is why most are here so please remember with that , that this may be considered sacred ground....now scurry your festering furs back to the wall..... :D

[LionRampant]

STFU Pup, this is some dHebate.

j/k

[Naz]

Is there a Map Editor for BF?

MASH, as good as you where with the needle, that surprises me. Or maybe I'm remembering Gasser...

Hurmphf!

The revive/medpack thang interests me as do the vehicles and open maps but I do worry about the player movement (I know beating a dead horse) if they can smooth it out then I will be happy to give it a shot.

Oh and where is that hacked milfhunter account that Nv has??

-Naz

[Chalybos]

Is there a Map Editor for BF?

MASH, as good as you where with the needle, that surprises me. Or maybe I'm remembering Gasser...

Hurmphf!

The revive/medpack thang interests me as do the vehicles and open maps but I do worry about the player movement (I know beating a dead horse) if they can smooth it out then I will be happy to give it a shot.

Oh and where is that hacked milfhunter account that Nv has??

-Naz
Try www.worldstopsites.com. Sometimes, they actually have legit :roll: hacked passes. But be warned, it's definitely an adult site.

Or so I heard.



Crap.

[MASH]

Hurmphf!

The revive/medpack thang interests me as do the vehicles and open maps but I do worry about the player movement (I know beating a dead horse) if they can smooth it out then I will be happy to give it a shot.
I think you may be mistaking game speed with poor movement. Wolf was a much faster game, and BF is much more sedate in comparison. To me, it is the same type of movement, just running at a slower speed.

And lol @ hurmphf!

[SoterioN]

What if I told you Battlefield 2 had classes, revives, dispensable ammo packs, sprinting, dual objective maps, and the ability for players to gain ranks. Would it sway any of you to the dark side?

Just curious.

instead of waiting for those things, play call of duty united offensive now. the awe mod has all that and realisitc bleeding effects, great artillery strikes....etc etc.

face it EA puts out unfinsihed code and expects us to pay full price i say f off EA and i'll play something finshed out of the box thank you very much. as far as bf2 goes, ea lost me with the piece of crap they put out the first time and the second time (anyone play bf vietnam), i'll patiently wait for rtcw 2.

things to do with bf cds........great coasters, psycedelic frisbees, bling bling wheels for your son's pine wood derby car.

A master indeed... when will the EA yea sayers learn to say nay... :D

[SoterioN]

Let's just all calm down and settle this debate once and for all...

If you want classic, good feelings gaming, play RTCW
If you want intense house to house fighting, play CoD
If you want intense vehicle action, play Pole Position... :D

[What-the..]

Finally, I only played the RtCW demo; I know I'll never be truly accepted by VSF due to this shameful fact.... :wink:

RuperT - What would make you think that?
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There are alot other other things for not to be truely accepted?


:?:

[The Duke]

I play ET predominantly, and RTCW, BFV, and BF42 occasionally simply b/c I want to frag and be fragged by familiar faces.....RTCW wasn't the most 'realistic' game out there, but it was a great game if you like having fun.

This isn't a pissing constest....well, it shouldn't be, anyway..... :lol:

Therefore, let's all get a FOG going and kick ass!!! WHO'S WITH ME?????

[Bizman]

:D
Right with ya Duke! I will frag with you anytime!
Biz

[Chalybos]

FOG's cool. How about this weekend?

[The Duke]

Friday night works great w/ me!

8)

[MASH]

Speaking of FOG's... I found this the other day. Brought a tear to my eye...

http://members.cox.net/thedenvers/Pictures/gasser.jpg

[LionRampant]

V57 spammer. :roll:

Who was Sgt_Zim again? :D

[MASH]

V57 spammer.
Sorry. I had just joined, came around the corner to see the gassious one waiting patiently for engineers next to the spawn... I thought it deserved a "w00t!" or two. Or three.

[The Duke]

Gasser still plays quite a bit of ET on rD.....but since CCM-era teamwork has eroded, he's usually a panzerwhore 8)

That's probably the biggest reason I still play so much ET on Austin and rD.....a lot of the old gang still around....

[SpongeBob]

V57 spammer. :roll:

Who was Sgt_Zim again? :D
The singing cowboy, I believe.

[WaHoo]

Wolf was my best ever online gaming experience, and nothing that came out after that even came close to it. Each time the temperatures outside drop to near freezin, I'm thinking RtCW, thanks to the damn maps with all the snow, fog, and clouds. Being that it has been 3 years since RtCW was released, that's outright scary.

I think EA is one of the better gaming giants out there. They're trying to make money, but at least they're trying to keep their customers happy. There are actually patches for their games, they usually don't make promises they later don't keep. When they decided that ET was a dead-end street, they didn't just go ahead and sell it anyway. They didn't just bury the whole thing. Instead they're giving it away for free...

Ubisoft however is a problem. They don't mind releasing unfinished products. They don't bother for weeks until they (maybe) release a working patch. No EA game I ever owned had as many initial problems as what you're getting from Ubi. It's almost normal to buy a game from Ubi and then not being able to play it right away because it takes them another month to have their damn cd-check fixed.

[SauerKraut]

Wolf was my best ever online gaming experience, and nothing that came out after that even came close to it. Each time the temperatures outside drop to near freezin, I'm thinking RtCW, thanks to the damn maps with all the snow, fog, and clouds. Being that it has been 3 years since RtCW was released, that's outright scary.

I think EA is one of the better gaming giants out there. They're trying to make money, but at least they're trying to keep their customers happy. There are actually patches for their games, they usually don't make promises they later don't keep. When they decided that ET was a dead-end street, they didn't just go ahead and sell it anyway. They didn't just bury the whole thing. Instead they're giving it away for free...

Ubisoft however is a problem. They don't mind releasing unfinished products. They don't bother for weeks until they (maybe) release a working patch. No EA game I ever owned had as many initial problems as what you're getting from Ubi. It's almost normal to buy a game from Ubi and then not being able to play it right away because it takes them another month to have their damn cd-check fixed.



Exactly!!!


Word for word agreement there, my fine German fellow. I wish Wolf was still around (but not the same, newer with newer graphics and mods and and and), but sadly it's just kind of old now. If they'd continued to develop Wolf into say, Wolf2 or whatever, I'd not likely have ever bought Battlefield to begin with...but I'm kind of glad I did...anyway...that's another story...

[SpongeBob]

Ubisoft however is a problem. They don't mind releasing unfinished products. They don't bother for weeks until they (maybe) release a working patch. No EA game I ever owned had as many initial problems as what you're getting from Ubi. It's almost normal to buy a game from Ubi and then not being able to play it right away because it takes them another month to have their damn cd-check fixed.

Hmm, I've owned a few Ubi games, both Splinter Cell releases in particular, neither had any issues that I'm aware of.

[WaHoo]

Exactly!!!


Word for word agreement there, my fine German fellow. I wish Wolf was still around (but not the same, newer with newer graphics and mods and and and), but sadly it's just kind of old now. If they'd continued to develop Wolf into say, Wolf2 or whatever, I'd not likely have ever bought Battlefield to begin with...but I'm kind of glad I did...anyway...that's another story...

I think Wolf is the perfect example for a game that doesn't need all fancy graphics to let you have lots of fun. Graphics are even less important if you consider that most people turn most of the eye candy off anyway when they're playing online. I usually do, not to the point of having nothing but wireframe graphics left, but down to the point where frameraets are consistent, and contrast between players and world (map) is high enough.

Mods... isn't ET just that? And well, all the stuff they crammed in there is the reason why I never really got into that game. I tried playing it for a while, but it's just too much chaos for me. I don't mind some action and panzer mayhem, but ET just had way too much of that for my taste.

It might have been interesting to see Wolf in some sort of "modern soldier" theme, but then again - eye candy mostly.

I'm also thinking that one of the problems with Wolf was the CCM server itself. Too many maps simply weren't playable with several dozens of players, even though the maps would have been perfectly fine for a smaller server.

It would have helped if some people out of the CCM community had been capable of creating their own maps and mods, but considering the time, knowledge, and effort you have to have to put into projects like that, it's no surprise that it never happened. Most CCM'ers are too busy working and actually playing... To a certain extent that's a major waste of resources. Just imagine being able to take all the ideas and experiences ever mentioned in one of the forums and turning them into something unique...

[SauerKraut]

OK, let me rephrase one thing then...Mods that I would enjoy...aka: mods that are completely unlike ET. Which was the most lame thing I have ever played, in my opinion and a horrible waste of time and money. Too bad too, because it really could have been something great if they ... just ... didn't ... screw ... with it ... so ... much!

Mods can be anything from a complete new game down to just adding trip-mines and coloured smoke.








I prefer azure coloured smoke.

[Mad_Gasser]

I would check it out if it had real objectives. I don't really like capture the flag type games.
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