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SoterioN
06-01-2004, 01:43 PM
Any other Thief'ers here? If so, I highly recommend the 3rd installment.

My first impressions still possess reservations simply because my computer system doesn't meet the minimums, and so I'm playing with everything, but sound, dumbed down... Despite this, it is a beautiful looking game and come August and a new system, I greatly look forward to replaying it.

Which leads to my next point - replay value. This game is full of replay value. Why? Because unlike its predecessors which were sequentially laid out missions that unfolded with the plot, this 3rd installment is more like a "choose your own adventure."

Example: the first two missions are designed to get the player, especially one who's never played Thief, used to tactics, movement, sound, etc.

But, after that, you start off in your own apartment. It's up to you to go sell your merchandise, buy equipment, mug people on the street. Most houses (buildings) are accessible in one way or another, and there are usually 3 or 4 subplots occurring at the same time that involve you as Garrett in some fasion.

As you move through the city, you begin to learn some of the plot. But what's funny is, despite what your goals are, depending on how you play determines what happens (that choose your own adventure thing). For example: Phoenix is currently playing this as well, and told me how he was moving through the streets and got caught by the City Watch (police). He ended up in jail and had to break out.

I didn't have this happen, because I eluded two City Watch officers pursuing me and continued on to a Hammerite cathedral for some pillaging... later, when back on the city streets, I confronted an officer just to see what would happen, and sure enough I landed my butt in jail...

Anywho, this game is great for people returning to the series, or first-timers.

For those returning, it may seem for awhile that this really isn't a sequel. There doesn't appear to be anything related to the events of Thief 2. But pay attention and read books laying around. When in the Hammerite cathedral, there is some literature discussing Karras, head of the Mechanists, and labelled as a herretic by the Hammerites. So after seeing this, and the difference in the Hammerites between this game and the first one, you can begin to see how this really is a sequel and that Eidos really did do a fair job putting this together after Looking Glass Studios crumbled...

Happy thieving...

megaman
06-01-2004, 03:00 PM
nice review, you actually make me wanna go and buy it. oooh, suprnova's back on...

Hsnopi
06-01-2004, 10:03 PM
i loved thief 1 and 2 so i might get this.
waht are the min specs?

SoterioN
06-01-2004, 10:28 PM
i loved thief 1 and 2 so i might get this.
waht are the min specs?

Windows 2000 or XP only, no ME, NT, 95, or 98
P4 1.5ghz
256 mb ram
Direct X9 (included)
3GB free hard space

Lots of ATI and Nvidia cards supported, but there are some Nvidia not supported Geforce 4 MX, 4 Go/ Quadro FX Go, and Nforce 2 and 3

Iron Sauron
06-01-2004, 10:54 PM
the demo refuses to work. that an omen for the game or just the demo being gHey?

ignus
06-01-2004, 11:41 PM
i got theif 1 and 2 free w/ various hardware upgrades, and theyre ok. a bit too slow for my tastes anymore, if i want stealth, ill stick to Metal Gear Solid :D

megaman
06-02-2004, 12:35 AM
i got theif 1 and 2 free w/ various hardware upgrades, and theyre ok. a bit too slow for my tastes anymore, if i want stealth, ill stick to Metal Gear Solid :D

and you call that stealth? well, uhm, what can i say, you're still young and innocent :lol:

Hsnopi
06-02-2004, 01:30 PM
poop. i have a 1.4
may be time to upgrade. but then again,. i just lost my job.
soooo
maybe not.
but CoH lags a little from time to time. gotta be the processor.

SoterioN
06-02-2004, 03:33 PM
poop. i have a 1.4
may be time to upgrade. but then again,. i just lost my job.
soooo
maybe not.
but CoH lags a little from time to time. gotta be the processor.

I'm playing it on a 1 Ghz P3 - it's somewhat choppy but I think a 1.4 would look good...

RuperT
06-02-2004, 03:37 PM
Well, I've gotten a little time to play this, and I've got a question (SPOILER WARNING):
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I overheard the guy pretending to be me. I climbed onto the balcony and, after the imposter left, stole all the client's loot. At this point, my objectives included 'Imposter to steal dagger...blah blah'. Then, I went to the armory, skirted the imposter, and stole the dagger myself. Then, I placed the dagger in the box by the Church (as specified to the imposter). At that point, the 'Imposter...' objective was removed (NOT checked off), and I received no Objective complete message. I went back to the client, but nothing happened. I tried killing the imposter... nothing. Do I need to go back to my apartment or something? Maybe it needs to pass to the next day (I haven't had this happen yet, I don't know what triggers it). Did I screw it up by looting the client?
I'm inclined not to worry about it, but I don't want to do the big St. Edgar's mission and find out I screwed the other one up later (I'm kind of a perfectionist with these things, damnit).
Reassure me, plz.

SoterioN
06-02-2004, 10:47 PM
Well, I've gotten a little time to play this, and I've got a question (SPOILER WARNING):
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I overheard the guy pretending to be me. I climbed onto the balcony and, after the imposter left, stole all the client's loot. At this point, my objectives included 'Imposter to steal dagger...blah blah'. Then, I went to the armory, skirted the imposter, and stole the dagger myself. Then, I placed the dagger in the box by the Church (as specified to the imposter). At that point, the 'Imposter...' objective was removed (NOT checked off), and I received no Objective complete message. I went back to the client, but nothing happened. I tried killing the imposter... nothing. Do I need to go back to my apartment or something? Maybe it needs to pass to the next day (I haven't had this happen yet, I don't know what triggers it). Did I screw it up by looting the client?
I'm inclined not to worry about it, but I don't want to do the big St. Edgar's mission and find out I screwed the other one up later (I'm kind of a perfectionist with these things, damnit).
Reassure me, plz.

That one is still up in the air. I actually did the St. Edgar mission BEFORE I went over the armory and p/u the dagger. I'm not sure if there's going to be a money drop later or not...

aside: have you been taking the landlord's kickback money??? :D

Bizman
06-03-2004, 12:02 PM
:D
I just killed the imposter, see...even in a game that stealth should be the key factor..kill only when necessary, my fps juices take over and I kill everything in sight! I killed him and continued on. I am in the castle trying to find the HAG! So far, I have really enjoyed the game. Getting the gloves and climbing walls is fun You taffer!
Biz

RuperT
06-03-2004, 06:01 PM
I kill no one. Not yet, at least (and I'm only playing on 'Hard'). I get my kicks pickpocketing the moneybags right off their belts.
By the way, just drop the dagger into the box outside St. Edgar's gate. When you leave the zone and return, there'll be a couple hundred gold in the box instead (even with a couple of would-be thieves standing nearby). It'd be kind of interesting to find out if the system is sophisticated enough to compensate for killing the client before payment...
I'll keep my eye out for the climbing gloves (I wish the rope arrows were implemented), but I may not have enough cake to buy them yet.
I'm guessing you guys already figured it out (esp. you bloodthirsty types), but if you threaten rich folk with a drawn arrow, they'll often drop their goodies and flee.
Finally, I haven't even been back to my apartment yet; is this what causes a 'day' to pass?

Bizman
06-04-2004, 06:05 PM
After finishing certain missions, you get 'Transported' to your apartment. I have picked alot o' pockets, but their is just something special about shanking them fools! I discovered the drop loot by accident but thanks :) Also, all of them moss arrows you are saving up, use them like flash bombs... i.e. Shoot it at the guards, hammerites, pagans -- whoever, they start coughing and are blinded for a little while just like the flash bombs. The major difference is that it will only affect the target you strike. BTW - Almost done with the game its been a blast!
Biz

SoterioN
06-09-2004, 08:48 AM
Just encountered the "Enforcers," man this game keeps getting better and better...

FYI, it pays off having the Hammerites as allies, they took care of at least 50% of the Enforcers for me... :D

the heck with the Pagans... :P

SoterioN
06-20-2004, 12:28 AM
Just finished...

What a great f$%king game! The witch is a real b....

Anyhoo, last warning though - if you want to play this game, go PC. It turns out there's a bug that causes you to lose your difficulty status when you are playing anything but "normal", so if you save and leave, die, etc. your game goes BACK to normal, instead of Expert, Hard or Easy.

The bug has already been patched for PC, but Xbox has announced no patch for the console version.

But, everyone here should have a PC, so get it while it's hot - it's a great game if you're in the mood for sneaking and thiefing...

The mission "Shalebridge Cradle" is worth it alone for the atmosphere... :D play it at night, with ALL of the doors locked... 8O