Hard drive help

[BabyHeads]

If I have a 200GB hard drive and I partition it into 2 100GB partitions, will I need to use the promise card to see the hard drive?

I've wanted to buy a Shutlle bare bones system for years now so that I can have a dedicated DJ box. however, I need the PCI slot for the recomended PCDJ sound card. They only come with 1 PCI slot.

I know that the new Shuttles come with SATA support on board but it's a lil too pricey for my price range (Trying to build a DJ PC for under 500 bones with the spare RAM and hard drives that I have).

Soooo.....If I can slap the 200 in the shuttle and be able to see all 200GB I'll cancel my dell order and go with what I wanted in the first place. (I got the dell cuz I can throw a gazillion drives in it but it's not as cool nor as portable as the shuttle)

Anyone????

[Chairman_Kaga]

If I have a 200GB hard drive and I partition it into 2 100GB partitions, will I need to use the promise card to see the hard drive?

I've wanted to buy a Shutlle bare bones system for years now so that I can have a dedicated DJ box. however, I need the PCI slot for the recomended PCDJ sound card. They only come with 1 PCI slot.

I know that the new Shuttles come with SATA support on board but it's a lil too pricey for my price range (Trying to build a DJ PC for under 500 bones with the spare RAM and hard drives that I have).

Soooo.....If I can slap the 200 in the shuttle and be able to see all 200GB I'll cancel my dell order and go with what I wanted in the first place. (I got the dell cuz I can throw a gazillion drives in it but it's not as cool nor as portable as the shuttle)

Anyone????
200GB drive = IDE?

[SpongeBob]

If I have a 200GB hard drive and I partition it into 2 100GB partitions, will I need to use the promise card to see the hard drive?

I've wanted to buy a Shutlle bare bones system for years now so that I can have a dedicated DJ box. however, I need the PCI slot for the recomended PCDJ sound card. They only come with 1 PCI slot.

I know that the new Shuttles come with SATA support on board but it's a lil too pricey for my price range (Trying to build a DJ PC for under 500 bones with the spare RAM and hard drives that I have).

Soooo.....If I can slap the 200 in the shuttle and be able to see all 200GB I'll cancel my dell order and go with what I wanted in the first place. (I got the dell cuz I can throw a gazillion drives in it but it's not as cool nor as portable as the shuttle)

Anyone????
200GB drive = IDE?
Only because I was just talking to BH about it, I'll answer for him, yes, IDE. SCSI would force him to place another card in the box, which he has no room for. Dunno if the 200gb IDE is ATA or SATA though.

[Chairman_Kaga]

Assuming you use the onboard IDE controller, does the system you're looking at have something like the Promise RAID controller (or other IDE RAID controller) on board?

I'd put all these questions in one post but that would make me fall further behind. :)


BH - How about a link to the two systems you're talking about? I can then probably give you completely credible sounding, yet incorrect, advice. :D

[Stockboy99]

:D sales@tw.shuttle.com ...easiest way to find out.

But yes, need more information on the actual system. I'm not sure if the old/original shuttle XPC's can't handle 200G. And 2 partitions? Just going to split them right? not put them in some kind of array?. I don't think the XPC's have onboard (p-ata) raid.

[BabyHeads]

Assuming you use the onboard IDE controller, does the system you're looking at have something like the Promise RAID controller (or other IDE RAID controller) on board?

I'd put all these questions in one post but that would make me fall further behind. :)


BH - How about a link to the two systems you're talking about? I can then probably give you completely credible sounding, yet incorrect, advice. :D

Sorry bout that guys. Been busy. The HD I currently have is IDE. Here is the shuttle:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=56-101-208&catalog=3&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=0

[BabyHeads]

:D sales@tw.shuttle.com ...easiest way to find out.

But yes, need more information on the actual system. I'm not sure if the old/original shuttle XPC's can't handle 200G. And 2 partitions? Just going to split them right? not put them in some kind of array?. I don't think the XPC's have onboard (p-ata) raid.

My thougts were that the partition I have on the IDE was a cheating way to allow XP to see all 200 gigs.

[Chairman_Kaga]

:D sales@tw.shuttle.com ...easiest way to find out.

But yes, need more information on the actual system. I'm not sure if the old/original shuttle XPC's can't handle 200G. And 2 partitions? Just going to split them right? not put them in some kind of array?. I don't think the XPC's have onboard (p-ata) raid.

My thougts were that the partition I have on the IDE was a cheating way to allow XP to see all 200 gigs.

If you have a bootable XP installation CD, you should be able to boot from CD into XP, partition your OS slice there, run your install, then create your 2nd partition once you install XP.

[Crazy Hobbit]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=56-115-003&depa=1&section=2

not shuttle but has been rated nicely.

[SpongeBob]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=56-115-003&depa=1&section=2

not shuttle but has been rated nicely.
not the right FSB for the super geekazoid BabyHeads is.

[Crazy Hobbit]

is he intel or athlon?

[SpongeBob]

is he intel or athlon?
Phil is Intel. One day he'll learn, but as he sold out to the man, whatcha gonna do.

[BabyHeads]

:D sales@tw.shuttle.com ...easiest way to find out.

But yes, need more information on the actual system. I'm not sure if the old/original shuttle XPC's can't handle 200G. And 2 partitions? Just going to split them right? not put them in some kind of array?. I don't think the XPC's have onboard (p-ata) raid.

My thougts were that the partition I have on the IDE was a cheating way to allow XP to see all 200 gigs.

If you have a bootable XP installation CD, you should be able to boot from CD into XP, partition your OS slice there, run your install, then create your 2nd partition once you install XP.

My 200 gig is already partitioned. I would use it as the 2nd drive in the system. I just wondered if having the partition would help me circumvent the upper limits of XP's viewing of HD space.

[BabyHeads]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=56-115-003&depa=1&section=2

not shuttle but has been rated nicely.

Sponge is right. It's AMD. I'm strictly an INTEL fool. Gotta have my 533 or 800mhz FSB. I 'preciate the offer though. :D

[BabyHeads]

is he intel or athlon?
Phil is Intel. One day he'll learn, but as he sold out to the man, whatcha gonna do.

I didn't sell out.... I was sold in. Just like how I converted to an ATI guy with my 9700 pro. I was all for AMD in the past but now my loyalties belong to intel.

[Chairman_Kaga]

My 200 gig is already partitioned. I would use it as the 2nd drive in the system. I just wondered if having the partition would help me circumvent the upper limits of XP's viewing of HD space.
What did you use to partition the HD?

Also, XP should see a 200GB NTFS formatted drive just fine. I striped 2 200GB SATA drives together. No issues.

If you partitioned the drive under XP, should work OK on another XP machine. Partition information is kept in the meta data of the HD and not the OS. So you should be fine as long as the system supports the same formatting (NTFS) that you used to create the partition.

[YellowDog]

Yep I have 2 100GB drives striped in raid 0 with no problems being seen as 1 drive 200GB.So in this case size doesn't matter. :P

YD

[BabyHeads]

My 200 gig is already partitioned. I would use it as the 2nd drive in the system. I just wondered if having the partition would help me circumvent the upper limits of XP's viewing of HD space.
What did you use to partition the HD?

Also, XP should see a 200GB NTFS formatted drive just fine. I striped 2 200GB SATA drives together. No issues.

If you partitioned the drive under XP, should work OK on another XP machine. Partition information is kept in the meta data of the HD and not the OS. So you should be fine as long as the system supports the same formatting (NTFS) that you used to create the partition.

I used XP to format the drive. Cool. An XPC would have worked for me. Too bad Dell shipped my pc yesterday.

I just remember that XP couldn't see anything over 160gb??? Without a promise card that is. Soooo, that's why I partitioned the 200 gig monster into 2 100gb partitions. Just in case. The hard drive came with a promise card and I never tried to connect it without the promise card cuz I'm outta IDE slots (1 CDRW, 1 DVD-ROM 1 40GB, 1 60GB and 1 200GB on the promise card).

Since the Shuttle only has 1 PCI slot that I need for the PCDJ recomended sound card my worry was that XP wouldn't see the full 200 gigs if it was just on the IDE with no promise card.

Thanks boys!