Saddam

[Lowrider]

I would like to be the first one to announce, at 730 am on this sunday morning. That i caputred Saddam. I won't take the credit, but yall can thank me later.

[AnalogKid]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39633000/jpg/_39633977_saddamcaptured203.jpg
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2002/10/23/Hagrid3.jpg

[Iron Sauron]

those democratic canidates and all the other Bush bashers are kickin them selves right now. :D :D :D :D

[LionRampant]

Yea, I turned on the news this morning (okay, didn't get out my bed until 10 minutes ago) and immediately felt sorry for the guy. What a haircut.

[triggerfx]

amazing news, I wasn't to sure if they would ever find him... big victory for the coalition forces, now if they could just find elvis and that roswell saucer...

[Chairman_Kaga]

http://www.osama-bin-laden.tmfweb.nl/osama%20bin%20laden%20picture%206.jpg


WHO'S NEXT?!?!

[LionRampant]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39633000/jpg/_39633977_saddamcaptured203.jpg

http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/terrorists_spies/terrorists/kaczynski/1a.jpg
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/WORLD/europe/10/19/blaine.release/storyvert.new.blaine.ap.jpg

[Dr.Strangelove]

Yea, I turned on the news this morning (okay, didn't get out my bed until 10 minutes ago) and immediately felt sorry for the guy. What a haircut.

You are a true humanitarian.

I think his punishment should be a good spanking and a tickling.

:roll:

I hope this is a great weight off of the Iraqi people. Judging by their reaction, it is.

[batmanuel]

I really hope this settles things down over there...

[Wrigs]

I really hope this settles things down over there...

It may unforntunately be a minor calm before the storm. Maybe all the "rebels" were hoping for Saddam to come back to power and now may unleash one final big assault :(

[LionRampant]

I really hope this settles things down over there...

It may unforntunately be a minor calm before the storm. Maybe all the "rebels" were hoping for Saddam to come back to power and now may unleash one final big assault :(
I feel the anti-west element will remain, unforunately. The guerilla war will probably still continue.

[Angry Kid]

They're not even within 100 miles of Saddam. They are not holding Saddam. They hold no place in Tikrit. This is an illusion - - they are trying to sell to the others an illusion.

- - Angry-al-Sahaf

[YellowDog]

SADoubleDAM can you belive it? His sons live and die in palace he gives up in a rat hole? coincindence I think not.
Oliver Stone

AKA


YD

[Dawg]

I really hope this settles things down over there...
It should end the guerilla effort that was aimed at restoring Saddam to power. However, I don't think that most of the guerilla's had this as a goal. It is still early but it doesn't look like Saddam was doing much more than staying on the run. When they discussed what was found with him there was no mention of radios or other communication gear nor was he surrounded by aides. Granted, they aren't telling us everything but it seems that this info would not be kept back.

The real problem in Iraq is the religious extremists and the terrorism that is breeding there. Saddam was a secular dictator that kept the extremists in check (or in mass graves). The terrorists in Iraq were not pro-Saddam - they are anti-Saddam. The suicide bombers are attempting to drive us and our allies out so that they can establish a fundementalist Islamic governments (a la Afghanistan of old).. They were opposed to Saddam and they are opposed to us and our allies. Capturing Saddam does nothing to stop this threat. If anything it will strengthen their position if we are not careful.

The capture of Saddam is a good thing but the American public has a very short attention span. If bodies continue to return from Iraq, and I suspect they will, then his capture won't have quite as much impact that we would think it would. I don't think the Dems are kicking themselves as much as Witchking thinks. Clark already said that his capture is a good thing. The issue is/was not the search for Saddam. It is how we have dealt with the entirety of Iraq - from our pre-war diplomacy, pre-war evidence, war prosecution, restoration of order, creation of a government, post-war diplomacy, and so forth. Iraq is not a simple issue.

Dawg

[Shultz]

those democratic canidates and all the other Bush bashers are kickin them selves right now. :D :D :D :D
Why would Bush basher's be kicking themselves?

[Dawg]

(snip) here's to a speedy trial by the Iraqui governing council, followed by a dose of his own medicine. Hopefully, he gets an unmarked, shallow grave.
I suspect that the US will reserve Saddam for their own trial. And this may become another international issue when the UN (et al) want to assert authority over the trial and prosecution. Will Bush hand him over? I dunno... but for some reason I think Bush will persist in his "with us or against us" attitude and continue to burn bridges with our former allies.

But let's just enjoy the moment .... regardless of how we ended up in Iraq and regardless of how he is to be handled . . . Saddam is finally, unequivically, utterly and totally... out of power and done for.

Dawg

[ignus]

(snip) here's to a speedy trial by the Iraqui governing council, followed by a dose of his own medicine. Hopefully, he gets an unmarked, shallow grave.
I suspect that the US will reserve Saddam for their own trial. And this may become another international issue when the UN (et al) want to assert authority over the trial and prosecution. Will Bush hand him over? I dunno... but for some reason I think Bush will persist in his "with us or against us" attitude and continue to burn bridges with our former allies.

But let's just enjoy the moment .... regardless of how we ended up in Iraq and regardless of how he is to be handled . . . Saddam is finally, unequivically, utterly and totally... out of power and done for.

Dawg

haha thats what you think! i heard that Saddam uploaded his brainwaves into the Internet and they are spreading around the world, spamming peoples computers w/ anti-American email and nude photos of himself :roll:

jk ;) its good hes caught

[laters]

The guy definitely needs a haircut.



those democratic canidates and all the other Bush bashers are kickin them selves right now. :D :D :D :D
Why would Bush basher's be kicking themselves?
I was wondering the same... I'd think this is good news for everyone regardless of what party they belong to?

[Canadian Hick]

those democratic canidates and all the other Bush bashers are kickin them selves right now. :D :D :D :D
Nein!

[Iron Sauron]

suspect: Sadam Hussein
crime: hes a tyranical ruler with a record almost as bad as Hitler
punishment: after trials should be sentenced to go back and let the iraqi people have at him.

edit: that better

[Canadian Hick]

suspect: Sadam Hussein
crime: hes a flippin despot, need we say more?
punishment: after trials should be sentenced to go back and let the iraqi people have at him.
That mean you're going to invade many of the people in your own coalition now? :roll:
He has committed MANY crimes, but I didn't know despotism was a crime.
It is good to see him gone, but was the price paid worth it?
<=Would rather kick Bush and Wolfowitz than myself.

[CMontyBurns]

will be very interesting to see how and where he is going to be tried... as Iraq didn't sign on to the International Crime Courts... he may not be tried in International Court... while I don't agree with the initial reasons for the war etc (will not go into any of this)... it would be very interesting to see an eye for an eye being brought to his punishment.... maybe a stoning by the population or something....

[Canadian Hick]

will be very interesting to see how and where he is going to be tried... as Iraq didn't sign on to the International Crime Courts... he may not be tried in International Court... while I don't agree with the initial reasons for the war etc (will not go into any of this)... it would be very interesting to see an eye for an eye being brought to his punishment.... maybe a stoning by the population or something....
There's already enough violence in Iraq. The coalition should be careful not to make a martyr.

[Shultz]

suspect: Sadam Hussein
crime: hes a tyranical ruler with a record almost as bad as Hitler
punishment: after trials should be sentenced to go back and let the iraqi people have at him.

edit: that better
Wow nice observation, now would you think the same thing knowing that the CIA employed him through out the Iran conflict.

Edit: Some one please lock this thread before it gets out of hand.

[Canadian Hick]

suspect: Sadam Hussein
crime: hes a tyranical ruler with a record almost as bad as Hitler
punishment: after trials should be sentenced to go back and let the iraqi people have at him.

edit: that better
Wow nice observation, now would you think the same thing knowing that the CIA employed him through out the Iran conflict.

Edit: Some one please lock this thread before it gets out of hand.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :D :P :P :lol:

[Chalybos]

suspect: Sadam Hussein
crime: hes a tyranical ruler with a record almost as bad as Hitler
punishment: after trials should be sentenced to go back and let the iraqi people have at him.

edit: that better
Wow nice observation, now would you think the same thing knowing that the CIA employed him through out the Iran conflict.

Edit: Some one please lock this thread before it gets out of hand.
Shultz, the voice of reason?!?! Apocalypse, here I come!

[Canadian Hick]

suspect: Sadam Hussein
crime: hes a tyranical ruler with a record almost as bad as Hitler
punishment: after trials should be sentenced to go back and let the iraqi people have at him.

edit: that better
Wow nice observation, now would you think the same thing knowing that the CIA employed him through out the Iran conflict.

Edit: Some one please lock this thread before it gets out of hand.
Shultz, the voice of reason?!?! Apocalypse, here I come!
No need to worry. Wait until I start making sense, Shultz spells "feel" right and SK claims porn is immoral.

[AnalogKid]

I hope this will speed up getting our troops home.

[JTFazz]

I think Sauron/Witchking does have a point. It gives Bush bashers less ammunition... not as significant an issue as it might have been. Even the Democrats learned something in the wake of Vietnam. Bashing troops and the military for following orders and doing their duty as patriots and turning our nation's back to them only served to lose nearly a whole generation.

Criticizing Bush for not finding Saddam or Bin Laden can really only be criticizing the troops on the ground who were looking for him... or at least some figured that out. So only those who want to bash Bush criticize the intelligence failures of the CIA and Department of Defense directly, in effect insulating troops in the field from feeling like they were being criticized and leveling the charges at the administration.

Now back to your regularly scheduled shallow analysis and spamming.

[Chalybos]

Never had anything but support for our troops from day one. It's the management of it that's dubious. My opinion, nothing more. Now, back to watching hot Russian female ice skaters.

[Canadian Hick]

I think Sauron/Witchking does have a point. It gives Bush bashers less ammunition... not as significant an issue as it might have been. Even the Democrats learned something in the wake of Vietnam. Bashing troops and the military for following orders and doing their duty as patriots and turning our nation's back to them only served to lose nearly a whole generation.

Criticizing Bush for not finding Saddam or Bin Laden can really only be criticizing the troops on the ground who were looking for him... or at least some figured that out. So only those who want to bash Bush criticize the intelligence failures of the CIA and Department of Defense directly, in effect insulating troops in the field from feeling like they were being criticized and leveling the charges at the administration.

Now back to your regularly scheduled shallow analysis and spamming.
I think the fault in what Sauron said was that most "Bush bashers" only do it because he could not find Saddam. Most people who oppose Bush and are "Bush bashers" do it based on why he went into Iraq and how poor his administration's attempts on diplomacy are. My opinion, and many others who opposed this war, their, opinion of George Bush will not be swayed by the fact Saddam was found.
About the ammunition to use against him; there still is the "you're either with us, or against us" foreign policy that is criticized by everyone but Republicans

[LilPuppy]

(snip) here's to a speedy trial by the Iraqui governing council, followed by a dose of his own medicine. Hopefully, he gets an unmarked, shallow grave.
I suspect that the US will reserve Saddam for their own trial. And this may become another international issue when the UN (et al) want to assert authority over the trial and prosecution. Will Bush hand him over? I dunno... but for some reason I think Bush will persist in his "with us or against us" attitude and continue to burn bridges with our former allies.

But let's just enjoy the moment .... regardless of how we ended up in Iraq and regardless of how he is to be handled . . . Saddam is finally, unequivically, utterly and totally... out of power and done for.

Dawg

Interesting thought that the U.S. will put him on trial. For what ? He committed no crimes on U.S. soil or they haven't produced proof that he conspired against the U.S., though they are trying hard too. The U.N. I beleive would have the only legal venue and if the President does inist upon taking the law upon himself even more so the international uproar I think would be deafening and he may find what supporters he had internationally would be the one that turns the fastest on him. And isolated even more internationally.

Kudo's too the men and women of the military on a job well done and come home safely. But don't let your boss have you do it all for not

[JTFazz]

Never had anything but support for our troops from day one. It's the management of it that's dubious. My opinion, nothing more. Now, back to watching hot Russian female ice skaters.

Pagan commie lover.

[JTFazz]

My new avatar in the works... thanks to Analog for the inspiration.

http://pto4.com/saddamhagrid.jpg

NOT!

[JTFazz]

I just now read through this thread. I must say I am very disappointed to read some of the malicious over exaggerations and falsehoods about a sitting U.S. president.

I will refer you to the rules about political and religious discussions and the problems that can result when we cannot conduct ourselves in a manner that reflects mature and respectful discussion.

Those posts have been removed and this thread, although its original intention was positive, now has to be locked.

This is a gamer's community. A place where we come to have fun and, if conducted responsibly, serious discussion. Regardless of your opinions of a public figure, you will certainly incite very hard feelings by making such unfounded comments.

Now back to your regularly scheduled spamming.